tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post6307968365268024779..comments2023-09-27T05:04:37.119-04:00Comments on THE APOLOGETIC FRONT: Does the Watchtower Communicate with the Dead? Some additional thoughts...Mike Felkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01974482615713418707noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-60913698135372500182010-05-21T05:30:09.690-04:002010-05-21T05:30:09.690-04:00You used the below:
*** re chap. 20 pp. 124-125 pa...You used the below:<br />*** re chap. 20 pp. 124-125 par. 17 A Multitudinous Great Crowd ***<br /><br />When I read this, this is what occurred to me. Remember when John the batizer was in prison and he dispatched to Jesus two disciples? They wanted to know (for John), if Jesus was the “one”, or if there was one coming after him? Did you note “HOW HE,JESUS, ANSWERED JOHN?”. He told the disciples “Tell John what you have seen [YOU KNOW-OBSERVATION] here...” Thus, in order for John to conclude that Jesus was the Messiah, he would have to have known what the scriptures would “indicate” about the Messiah. Therefore, John would have to come to the determination by Jesus “virtue” of action, and not “direct” communication by clear explanation and word. <br />ARE WE NOT ALL OBSERVING THE “SIGNS OF THE TIMES”?..<br />Likewise, take note to the end of the portion you used, “... got to learn the identity of the great crowd by closely observing what Jehovah was performing in their midst... The connection between that day, and Revelation was not as though a voice came from heaven, but like John the Baptizer, through dedicated study and knowing the scriptures, it would become known through “observation”.<br />Now I am not going to address the Samuel, because if you understand what was just stated, and meditate on that thought, you will understand, its just not worth the additional conjecture. <br />Next, the comparison of Samuel and John's revelation, and then a statement claiming “by obsevation”, are not comparable to the base quote. Furthermore, the Jehovah's witness elder did not claim divine voices. In fact, you took the quote out of the bible, and made a false witness as though it was “conveyed” the messages were delivered the same. The BIBLE stated John got his information from one of the 24 elders. Now, can you say today “How the lord, or those under his direction ARE communicating with his people today?” Are you going to tell us how Jesus and those whom he would choose angels, or elders, or otherwise are communicating with his people today?<br />Additionally, if as so-called Christians, anyone has not come to know the difference of messages communicated from heaven during John revelation according to the bible – not the watchtower society as your quote insinuates – after all, the body of your quote is from the book of Revelation where John the Apostle was having his revelation, which is in any bible. And the difference of a worldly spirit medium being used by fallen angels to deceive. My suggestion is you spend less time on criticizing the watchtower society, and more time studying and preaching. For did not Jesus say, Your lord and my lord, “Let them be! If they are not against us, they are for us...”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-78823614792138192442010-02-27T08:14:12.981-05:002010-02-27T08:14:12.981-05:00I was a little hesitant to use that quote because ...I was a little hesitant to use that quote because a JW might argue that he was only continuing his work through his writings, not necessarily through divine communication or something like that.Mike Felkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01974482615713418707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-43430868861774311332010-02-27T07:21:03.525-05:002010-02-27T07:21:03.525-05:00After Russell died in 1916 it was believed that he...After Russell died in 1916 it was believed that he continued to direct the work from heaven.<br /><br />"This verse shows that, though Pastor Russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the Harvest work."<br /><br />The Finished Mystery page 144 (8:3) 1918 editionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com