tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post8979207332647064417..comments2023-09-27T05:04:37.119-04:00Comments on THE APOLOGETIC FRONT: Discussion/debate with a non-TrinitarianMike Felkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01974482615713418707noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-24133344692054316302011-05-01T00:27:26.133-04:002011-05-01T00:27:26.133-04:00Hey Clint, thanks for your comment. With regards ...Hey Clint, thanks for your comment. With regards to your latter point, what Scripture would you propose as conclusive whereby "God" collectively refers to "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." I'm not disputing this as a possibility, but would like to see where this is explicitly stated.Mike Felkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636380476793694320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-11257120264665532882011-05-01T00:03:19.153-04:002011-05-01T00:03:19.153-04:00I know this is an old post, but I listened to the ...I know this is an old post, but I listened to the conversation over at Six Screens of the Watchtower, and I just wanted to comment on a few things that a couple callers made.<br /><br />Joseph, made a comment that Christ is only Creator of humanity, and argued that "all" doesn't always mean "all." And to this, he is absolutely correct in regards to "all" not always referring to "everybody, everywhere" or "everything that had existed or is presently existing." However, he is absolutely wrong in his assertion that Christ only created humanity, and it's a bit of a surprise that he brought up Colossians 1:15 to prove his point, because in v. 16, the very next verse, Paul tells us what it means by "all things" -- all things in both, the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. Mr. Garcia was quick to point out a similar text in Hebrews, but Colossians 1:16 indicated just what "all" means -- everything.<br /><br />In regards to the caller right after Joseph, whose name I did not catch, made the statement that whenever "God" is mentioned in the text of Scripture that Trinitarians refer to this as meaning "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." However, this is far from the truth. Just as "Man" can refer specifically to male to the exclusion of female, so also "God" can refer to the Father to the exclusion of the Son. However, just as "Man" can include both male and female as a class of being, (Genesis 5:2), so too "God" can include both Father and Son as a class of being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28227207.post-75577056279534424972011-05-01T00:01:29.614-04:002011-05-01T00:01:29.614-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com